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Norma (Lebanon): We foreigners come here because we have been unable to solve the
problem that we have set before ourselves, and we come for your help. Many
times when I come here with a question in mind, I have found that by thinking
about it enough, I come either to some form of an answer, or I feel from
reading your book Problems of Spiritual Life, that in any event
you will give me an answer that "you will only be able to know if you do this,"
and that I am sort of putting the cart before the horse. In life we apply
ourselves to a dramatic problem, and eventually see the problem as a whole, and
solve it by having seen it as a whole; but day after day, maybe year after
year, I try to change my way of thinking, and it doesn't work. Maybe for ten
minutes at a time I can see that "a thing is a thing because I call it a
thing," and by calling it "a thing" I posit "I." I can understand this, but the
understanding of it does not alter my condition.
SWAMIJI: You are not supposed merely to
understand it. You have to apply that understanding in your practical life.
Norma: I
apply that understanding, but it is as if I cannot be aware all the time, for
some reason. So, what I am asking is, why?
SWAMIJI: That understanding has to become
part of your living itself. That is the essence of living spiritual life.
Understanding is not sufficient.
Norma: Yes,
I know.
SWAMIJI: The understanding is only an
information given to you so that you may apply it in your personal life. This
virtually means meditation. You deeply sink into your heart the content of your
understanding, and become it, practically, and change your personality
into the character of that thing which you have understood. The object of your
understanding has entered you to such an extent that you have yourself
become that. Knowledge has become being. Your knowledge, your
understanding, has become yourself. Do you understand?
Norma: I
understand, but then I go out and I live; I interact, let's say. For some time,
I maintain some sense of this, and then everything goes screwy on me. I become
"I" and again think "this person wants that from me." Even if I can control
this to some degree, and not become scatter-brained at the first moment...
SWAMIJI: You can hold it only to some
degree, in the earlier stages. You are just beginning it and, therefore, you
may be able to retain such a consciousness for some minutes, or say for an
hour, if you are able to sit quietly and meditate; but it is not possible to
keep it in mind for all times, throughout the day.
Norma: And,
are you able to, then?
SWAMIJI: Well, we are trying to do that. We
are existing only for that purpose; otherwise, what is the good of living?
Norma: Yes,
but most of us don't do that. And even when you read the religious texts, they
say if you want to get there, you are going to be one in a million. They don't
get there.
SWAMIJI: Day in and day out, you have to
brood over this matter. You have no other work in this world, except this. You
are saying that you have a lot of work to do, and your mind goes here and
there.
Norma: No, I
am saying that though I know, I can see that this is counterproductive to me,
it seems that it is sometimes impossible for my mind to change.
SWAMIJI: That is because you have not been
able to make your understanding a part of your life. You are living in one way,
and your understanding is somewhere else, in a book, or in the intellect. You
are not an intellect, you are a soul; so, what you call understanding is the
appreciation of truth by the intellect. This appreciation has to enter your
soul. This is what I mean by saying that knowledge is being. It requires great
practice for a protracted period, and whatever you have understood in this
respect is not inadequate; it is sufficient.
You know something, and it is good enough.
The only thing is that you must have a little time to sit alone by yourself.
You may be a busy person; that is all right, but even then, at least in the
earlier stages, you must find an hour or two, or even less than that, as much
as possible, to sit quietly and identify your consciousness with what you say
is your understanding. Later on, if God wills, you may be able to think it
throughout the day, and your distractions of life will not then upset you.
They are really not distractions. They are
only different things which you are not able to harmonise into an integrated
whole. The things of the world are not distractions. They look like that because
you are unable to place them properly in their proper context.
God has not created distractions. He has
created a universe which is complete in itself. And so, you have to see the
whole world as God Himself would see it, as a total whole, in which all distractive
elements find a proper place. And in their own place, they are perfectly all
right. If you take them out of context, they look irregular and undesirable,
and all that. Put everything in its own context and everything is all right.
The whole world is perfect, and you are also perfect, because you are a part of
that. This kind of meditation is what I have suggested in my little book Problems
of Spiritual Life. Think over that. When you go to Lebanon afterwards, you
can write to us, if you have any questions.
God's creation is full of contradictions.
Nothing is like something else. One leaf in the tree is not like another leaf
in the same tree. One person is not like another person. Everything is
different. There is so much contradiction; yet, it is a perfect blend of
harmony and beauty of creation. This is symbolised in the contradictions of the
family of Lord Shiva, and the perfect harmony also that He maintains. The worst
poison of the snake is the nectar on His body. Nothing will harm Him. So, God
is all perfection, and in Him every contradiction that you see in life is
harmonised beautifully.
In our own body, there are pleasant things
and unpleasant things also; yet, they are all harmonised in our personality.
You have got lungs, heart, stomach, entrails, blood, bone, flesh, marrow. They
are all unpleasant things to see, but they are encased in a bag of skin so that
the person looks nice. Suppose the skin is removed; how beautiful will that
person look? You would run away from that person as if a ghost is coming. Such
a contradiction and horror! An unpleasant admixture of things in our own body
is made to look beautiful with a skin covering, and we are looking wonderful.
So, even in our own body there is this contradiction harmonised. We are also
like a little cosmos, a symbol of God. They say the human being is a mirror of
God, symbolising the Almighty. Whatever God has, you also have.
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